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Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1632	Posted - 2015.08.11 15:58:36 - [1] - Quote Kooshti wrote: why is this guy mad? was he violated in space? We made unwanted physical contact in his special place Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1633	Posted - 2015.08.11 16:08:08 - [2] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Robert De Lyse wrote: What gives you the RIGHT to force the empire population of EvE to PvP? It's called player freedom, look it up some time. its really one sided player freedom, just sayin is all Not at all, they have the freedom to avoid it if they so choose. They do not have any right to demand that it cease, in any way. If they want that, they can go play Star Trek Online with the rest of the cowards. I sit on the fence with both sides of this sort of thing, while you are having freedom to do what you want you are restricting the freedom of other to play your own game. yeah they can avoid it ofcourse but having to avoid something is not freedom to go where you want, but i only really look at this from wardec mechanics where they force people, and forcing something on someone is not freedom. but the rules allow it so why even bother arguing about it What is this fascination with freedom. Sandbox is not Do what ever you want your free You are entitled to your style of fun You can build how you like where you like Sandbox is Here is the sand. Here is the boundary of the world. Go play. Other kids are picking on me and stomping my sandcastle. Groups building the same goal build bigger and better castles Groups ganging up on others for their decorative things have the best castles Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1633	Posted - 2015.08.11 16:13:45 - [3] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: I find it remarkable that a corp thief has an argument against griefing. Honestly, I'll steal jet cans, bump your ship, loot your missions, and smack you in local. I always keep it polite but my objective is always to pick a fight... Sometimes someone gets mad. That's pretty much how fights get picked. You, however, use a much more insidious method: lying to people while developing relationships with them and then stealing the output of months of their time. I find your playstyle distasteful because you value isk (which isn't an especially meaningful substance) over relationships. I'm glad you are in the game because you are a threat to be considered, however I think you make every crime i've ever committed, ever war I've waged, and every noob I've blasted seem like a collection of kindnesses. When I get done killing someone's ship, he always knows that I picked a fight, he accepted a risk, and his decisions resulted in a degree of loss. We all know the first rule of Eve. When you get done they feel betrayal, insecurity with the social framework of eve, and quite frequently as though they're "starting over". For you to judge the traditional griefer for picking fights and hunting targets is the equivalent of Bernie Madoff judging a child for shoplifting. I think you're probably just the kind of person who doesn't value relationships, isn't sharp enough to master game mechanics, and lies to himself an awful lot. I am imagining that, no matter how hot you are, you don't make friends very well. I find your judgement of griefers meaningless and difficult to understand. You make us look like public servants. Hold up mo. He isn't a corp thief yet. At a whopping 7 days old with no corp history I demand to know how he stole from an NPC corp... Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1653	Posted - 2015.08.12 06:09:42 - [4] - Quote takedoom wrote: The one thing I noticed with greifers: if you grief them they whine 2x as much as a care bear and its hilarious. I remember a fair amount of bitching in a certain channel about a certain eviction people experienced. You may be onto something here Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1660	Posted - 2015.08.12 17:53:56 - [5] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Omar Alharazaad wrote: We're bored and kinda stopped taking you seriously a while ago. So now we amuse ourselves due to you being unable to do the job. Also, no griefers in EVE, they're all playing on Minecraft public servers. Can confirm, some little toad built a 200 block high wiener on my server last month, and somehow made it shoot sheep or cats or something out of the top constantly. I wish I was kidding. Sounds more like art then greifing Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1662	Posted - 2015.08.12 18:07:21 - [6] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Tarojan wrote: The current state of play is that the high sec pvp community has such an apparantly high bar of entry , which the odds stacked so high against the pvers, that those who want a mixed game of pve/pvp are better served dodging war decs and just going to low sec for fun and pew pew. Wouldn't it be so much better if we got rid of concord, war decs and armed pve ships to not be flying coffins if pvped? This is a pvp game right? so why not make ALL ships pvp wether for fight or for flight? This happened when they changed wars to have a 2500% higher base cost and added the ally system that unilaterally benefits the defender. The higher pay barrier caused low skill or low income aggressors to join larger groups to spread the costs around. The ally system made being the aggressor so much more potentially dangerous that it became virtual suicide for anyone but a dedicated pvp group to declare war at all. It's a situation wrought out of a misguided attempt to nerf highsec aggression. Instead of achieving it's actual goal it just put highsec PVP groups in a position where they have an absolute monopoly on combat in highsec. I don't expect it to be fixed, ever. I expect any future changes to exclusively involve more nerfs of a similar nature and for the situation to just become more extreme. Also your best option if you're at war with BAW is to try and kill N1ghtw1ng, he's always suspect flagged, often not on comms and has no links or reps, he's also someone's son and gets yelled at irl if he dies. Alternatively put up a POCO somewhere and Shadowgirl9 will attempt to reinforce it solo in a faction battelship in the EU timezone while the rest of the alliance is sleeping. I also flyy Barghest around unscouted pretty often. There's lots of reasonable options of things to do other than running and hiding for people who are inclined to actually try. But trying is hard and calling a situation impossible and giving up is easy. And they stop doing all these things when they DEC us grr. No but seriously unless in a huge t3 and logo blob that shames most nullsec alliances there are always options to counter. Sometimes a huge blob of such ships is insurmountable by a small, low sp and/or poor group. If you are indeed a mixed group and willing to fight see if your aggressors will have some more fair fights. If you pissed them off or its a contract you made your bed already Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1662	Posted - 2015.08.12 18:11:20 - [7] - Quote admiral root wrote: Robert De Lyse wrote: There you go again, being vile as hell, this is why people hate this game, it is uncalled for, why the hell do u feel the need to insult people? Says the guy who made comments about all kinds of RL assault on CCP staff. I regret I was crafting a post while this comment was made and you beat me too this. Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1679	Posted - 2015.08.13 03:17:07 - [8] - Quote ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: Unlocked the thread. Please continue enjoying your content, y'all. 2 thread unlocks in the same year... truly we are living in the end times Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1681	Posted - 2015.08.13 03:32:58 - [9] - Quote admiral root wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: Unlocked the thread. Please continue enjoying your content, y'all. 2 thread unlocks in the same year... truly we are living in the end times Calm down, Marmite. Its the end of days man. Comets and asteroids falling from the wormholes. Great space quakes turning off gates. Bears and gankers living together in peace. The end is nigh Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1690	Posted - 2015.08.13 06:28:58 - [10] - Quote @OP PS see how I got trolled here and ran with it Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]

Noragen Neirfallas Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective 1690	Posted - 2015.08.13 07:24:17 - [11] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: this thread got unlocked wtf is happening here? isd ordered some popcorn in We are of the opinion that ISD have shares in popcorn manufacturers Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1696	Posted - 2015.08.13 15:12:01 - [12] - Quote ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Lan Wang wrote: this thread got unlocked wtf is happening here? isd ordered some popcorn in We are of the opinion that ISD have shares in popcorn manufacturers That or I like content. Mmmm, hot buttered content. All right sir you just earnt your place back in my signature (and heart). Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie [s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1711	Posted - 2015.08.14 19:18:49 - [13] - Quote Xeno Szenn wrote: Thank you for the formatting help i know i don't forum well. How do you have time to forum? Don't you have some overlords butt to kiss? Also hello again you are quickly going from forums are a waste of time to a regular. Just fair warning at this rate you will start checking out every thread Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1714	Posted - 2015.08.15 03:13:37 - [14] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Not really sure what that long rambling post was trying to get at. All I got is that capitals should be allowed in highsec and I entirely agree. The losses of entire carrier fleets to suspect flagging alone would be worth it. i dont think 99% of wardeccers would know what to do if a slowcat fleet landed on an undock, apart from dock up 99% of wardeccers cant handle a destroyer fleet just saying . Well that's not true but at the very least PIRAT seemed confused today on what to do about it on their undock. Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1715	Posted - 2015.08.15 04:21:08 - [15] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Not really sure what that long rambling post was trying to get at. All I got is that capitals should be allowed in highsec and I entirely agree. The losses of entire carrier fleets to suspect flagging alone would be worth it. i dont think 99% of wardeccers would know what to do if a slowcat fleet landed on an undock, apart from dock up 99% of wardeccers cant handle a destroyer fleet just saying . Well that's not true but at the very least PIRAT seemed confused today on what to do about it on their undock. Russians are a different set of rules... I did not intend to characterize them. But most of the guys I ran with for years would be happy to fly caps in high sec... To be honest, though, I wish they would take measures to make t1 frigs relevant again before they attempt to bring caps to high sec. Eh this is circular but basically if you bring in caps you raise the bar to be relevant in the area. I mean personally I can fly a slowcat and 2 dreads between my toons but I'd be disappointed if this became a thing in highsec. Also as mentioned Carriers would be invulnerable in npc corps Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1718	Posted - 2015.08.15 11:02:32 - [16] - Quote Xeno Szenn wrote: Not saying they don't know what there doing but honestly it would be a death blow to high sec. Sure you know what your doing but if your dropping caps then you may get the bigger fish interested and they have years of experience in killing caps and groups. That's not to say that they would find you amusing to play with or even care about trying to kill them but you may actual draw there attention if you have enough capitals and are using them. The complete other side of the coin from use everything in high sec is a 100 percent safe high sec and that would be bad for the game and for high sec as well. You guys have a nice middle ground that could use a few more conflict drivers give people a reason to fight and they will generally. Give them a way to fight with impunity and they will. For isk makers give them a way to be 100 percent safe and they will do that as well. Honestly a fair fight in eve only exists if you planed wrong. Everyone is looking for an advantage and if they can gain an advantage they will do so. You realize half the **** we fly in highsec cost more then your slowcats right? Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1718	Posted - 2015.08.15 12:12:23 - [17] - Quote Xeno Szenn wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Xeno Szenn wrote: Not saying they don't know what there doing but honestly it would be a death blow to high sec. Sure you know what your doing but if your dropping caps then you may get the bigger fish interested and they have years of experience in killing caps and groups. That's not to say that they would find you amusing to play with or even care about trying to kill them but you may actual draw there attention if you have enough capitals and are using them. The complete other side of the coin from use everything in high sec is a 100 percent safe high sec and that would be bad for the game and for high sec as well. You guys have a nice middle ground that could use a few more conflict drivers give people a reason to fight and they will generally. Give them a way to fight with impunity and they will. For isk makers give them a way to be 100 percent safe and they will do that as well. Honestly a fair fight in eve only exists if you planed wrong. Everyone is looking for an advantage and if they can gain an advantage they will do so. You realize half the **** we fly in highsec cost more then your slowcats right? They may cost more but could they kill them? thats the real question could you break them and throw in high grade slaves and all of that I kind of doubt it. Time may prove me wrong though if high sec combat caps ever become a thing. don't stress it wont Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1730	Posted - 2015.08.15 23:51:48 - [18] - Quote ErrorRon wrote: BRING BACK AOE DOOMSDAYS IN HIGHSEC Its a monocle... Tora ALT confirmed Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD